Geometric Triangulation is Hard Science ...
but comparing the brightness of one twinkle
to another is somewhat susceptible to varying
degrees of optical distortion!
The science of optics and luminosity is about as hard a science as you can get.
BUT ... I have little doubt that the Universe is
infinitely larger than we can HONESTLY measure.
Then you should have no problem with the dimensions of the universe that the astronomers are HONESTLY measuring.
But were does it say that God Created the Stars
in the OFF position ... then placed them way out
in the distance ... and then later decided to pull
their little chains ... and illuminate them ???
The text says that God created the stars in the ON position -- they were visible. They were already their great distances away.
God Created EVERYTHING fully formed & complete ...
with the exception of the Earth which He describes
in the Days of Creation!
Adam was a Man ... not a boy, baby, or embryo!
The animals were also adults ... not newborns!
The answer to the age old question is "The CHICKEN"...
NOT the egg!
After the creation of Adam and the stars both started aging. 930 years later Adam died an old man. If Adam were alive today he would appear to be several thousand years old. In the same manner the starlight we see today looks as old as it really is. What astronomers see is the "light in transit" as it moves through the universe. We know from direct observation the cosmic makeup (stellar dust clouds) of what's between us and the star. As its light beam makes it way from the star to our eye we can measure its spectral line shift and that tells us how far the light beam has traveled. Think of the amount of red you see in the glow from a distant forest fire as a function of the amount of smoke that is in the air. These spectral shifts are directly measureable with great precision. In addition we can directly observe "real time" cosmic events taking place, such as supernova explosions. These are no illusions. Astronomers are observing and directly measuring real stellar events at real and great distances.
I don't understand why it is deceitful for God to
Create a world & universe that was ready to use ...
right out of the box?
Starting His PERFECT Scriptures with a detailed
fallacy that He must have known would someday
be proven wrong ... makes God either deceitful
or just plain stupid?
God created the universe and all the laws that govern it "right out of the box." The Bible and His creation both declare his glory.
1The heavens are telling of the glory of God. And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. 2Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge. 3There is no speech, nor are there words; Their voice is not heard. 4Their line has gone out through all the earth, And their utterances to the end of the world. In them He has placed a tent for the sun. (Psalm 19:1-4 NASB)
20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. (Romans 1:20 NASB)
Speculations and Assumptions based on SOFT Science
cannot possibly trump God's Word !!!
Neither the study of the Bible or His creation are SOFT sciences. Astronomy (optics and luminosity) is about a hard a science as you can get and it perfectly aligns with the Bible.
but comparing the brightness of one twinkle
to another is somewhat susceptible to varying
degrees of optical distortion!
The science of optics and luminosity is about as hard a science as you can get.
BUT ... I have little doubt that the Universe is
infinitely larger than we can HONESTLY measure.
Then you should have no problem with the dimensions of the universe that the astronomers are HONESTLY measuring.
But were does it say that God Created the Stars
in the OFF position ... then placed them way out
in the distance ... and then later decided to pull
their little chains ... and illuminate them ???
The text says that God created the stars in the ON position -- they were visible. They were already their great distances away.
God Created EVERYTHING fully formed & complete ...
with the exception of the Earth which He describes
in the Days of Creation!
Adam was a Man ... not a boy, baby, or embryo!
The animals were also adults ... not newborns!
The answer to the age old question is "The CHICKEN"...
NOT the egg!
After the creation of Adam and the stars both started aging. 930 years later Adam died an old man. If Adam were alive today he would appear to be several thousand years old. In the same manner the starlight we see today looks as old as it really is. What astronomers see is the "light in transit" as it moves through the universe. We know from direct observation the cosmic makeup (stellar dust clouds) of what's between us and the star. As its light beam makes it way from the star to our eye we can measure its spectral line shift and that tells us how far the light beam has traveled. Think of the amount of red you see in the glow from a distant forest fire as a function of the amount of smoke that is in the air. These spectral shifts are directly measureable with great precision. In addition we can directly observe "real time" cosmic events taking place, such as supernova explosions. These are no illusions. Astronomers are observing and directly measuring real stellar events at real and great distances.
I don't understand why it is deceitful for God to
Create a world & universe that was ready to use ...
right out of the box?
Starting His PERFECT Scriptures with a detailed
fallacy that He must have known would someday
be proven wrong ... makes God either deceitful
or just plain stupid?
God created the universe and all the laws that govern it "right out of the box." The Bible and His creation both declare his glory.
1The heavens are telling of the glory of God. And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. 2Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge. 3There is no speech, nor are there words; Their voice is not heard. 4Their line has gone out through all the earth, And their utterances to the end of the world. In them He has placed a tent for the sun. (Psalm 19:1-4 NASB)
20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. (Romans 1:20 NASB)
Speculations and Assumptions based on SOFT Science
cannot possibly trump God's Word !!!
Neither the study of the Bible or His creation are SOFT sciences. Astronomy (optics and luminosity) is about a hard a science as you can get and it perfectly aligns with the Bible.